Linux User #330250
2015-08-03 20:01:56 UTC
Hello!
First of all: thank you for this database!
This is my first posting to the list. I contributed some IDs I found
missing in the database to both, usb-ids and pci-ids via the ucw.cz
internet page.
The issue:
I recently tried out some old hardware I had stored for years in my
cellar, among it I found 4 PCI Sound Blaster sound cards. Now, my
problem is as follows:
According to
https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/mods/PC/1274/1371?action=help?help=newitem the
name should be the chip, and in square brackets the marketing name.
You can find the card IDs here:
https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/1274
My four cards are:
1. CT4810 - https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/1274/5880
2. CT4810 - https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/1274/5880
3. CT5803 - https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/1274/1371
4. CT5806 - https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/1274/1371
They all include "AudioPCI" in their respective ID text.
Now, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoniq_AudioPCI the
name "AudioPCI" is actually a marketing name for the sound cards still
produced by Ensoniq. After the acquisition by Creative Labs they became
"Sound Blaster PCI" cards with varying names, such as the "Sound Blaster
PCI128".
Additionally I found that there are two chips on the cards, but only the
main chip seems to be represented in the PCI ID and subsystem ID.
Example: the two CT4810 cards I have feature different companion chips,
but this cannot be seen just by looking at the IDs. Both are 1274:5880
(rev 2), subsystem 1274:2000, yet the first one has a Creative companion
chip while the second one uses a SIGMATEL chip.
To make it more complicated, the 5880 seems to be produced by Creative
Labs, not by Ensoniq, but the PCIID for 1274:5880 says "Ensoniq 5880B
[AudioPCI]". (According to the Wikipedia article for "Ensoniq_AudioPCI"
mentioned above.)
(OT: Accidentally the first time I tried the CT5803, it repeatedly
reported 1274:1351 and no driver worked with this card. I then tried all
the other cards and when I used this first one again it suddenly
reported 1274:1371 and as far as I could see all the drivers worked
correctly afterwards.)
Since the naming doesn't seem right I would like to ask why the naming
format is like it is, and maybe discuss a change/correction of the names
here. I do this on the mailing list because there are too many cards
involved (most Ensoniq cards with vendor ID 1274).
Thanks.
Andreas aka Linux User #330250
My cards specifically:
1. *CT4810* #1
*chip labels on the PCI card*
*chip labels on the PCI card*
*chip labels on the PCI card*
*chip labels on the PCI card*
First of all: thank you for this database!
This is my first posting to the list. I contributed some IDs I found
missing in the database to both, usb-ids and pci-ids via the ucw.cz
internet page.
The issue:
I recently tried out some old hardware I had stored for years in my
cellar, among it I found 4 PCI Sound Blaster sound cards. Now, my
problem is as follows:
According to
https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/mods/PC/1274/1371?action=help?help=newitem the
name should be the chip, and in square brackets the marketing name.
You can find the card IDs here:
https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/1274
My four cards are:
1. CT4810 - https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/1274/5880
2. CT4810 - https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/1274/5880
3. CT5803 - https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/1274/1371
4. CT5806 - https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/1274/1371
They all include "AudioPCI" in their respective ID text.
Now, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoniq_AudioPCI the
name "AudioPCI" is actually a marketing name for the sound cards still
produced by Ensoniq. After the acquisition by Creative Labs they became
"Sound Blaster PCI" cards with varying names, such as the "Sound Blaster
PCI128".
Additionally I found that there are two chips on the cards, but only the
main chip seems to be represented in the PCI ID and subsystem ID.
Example: the two CT4810 cards I have feature different companion chips,
but this cannot be seen just by looking at the IDs. Both are 1274:5880
(rev 2), subsystem 1274:2000, yet the first one has a Creative companion
chip while the second one uses a SIGMATEL chip.
To make it more complicated, the 5880 seems to be produced by Creative
Labs, not by Ensoniq, but the PCIID for 1274:5880 says "Ensoniq 5880B
[AudioPCI]". (According to the Wikipedia article for "Ensoniq_AudioPCI"
mentioned above.)
(OT: Accidentally the first time I tried the CT5803, it repeatedly
reported 1274:1351 and no driver worked with this card. I then tried all
the other cards and when I used this first one again it suddenly
reported 1274:1371 and as far as I could see all the drivers worked
correctly afterwards.)
Since the naming doesn't seem right I would like to ask why the naming
format is like it is, and maybe discuss a change/correction of the names
here. I do this on the mailing list because there are too many cards
involved (most Ensoniq cards with vendor ID 1274).
Thanks.
Andreas aka Linux User #330250
My cards specifically:
1. *CT4810* #1
*chip labels on the PCI card*
Creative CT5880-DCQ
Creative CT1297-TAT
*lspci*Creative CT1297-TAT
02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Ensoniq 5880B [AudioPCI]
[1274:5880] (rev 02)Subsystem: Ensoniq Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI128 [1274:2000]
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=slow >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-Latency: 32 (3000ns min, 32000ns max)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
Region 0: I/O ports at a000 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
Region 0: I/O ports at a000 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: snd_ens1371
*ALSA*Kernel driver in use: snd_ens1371
0 [AudioPCI ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xa000, irq 17
*ALSA* Advanced information - PCIEnsoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xa000, irq 17
02:01.0 0401: 1274:5880 (rev 02)
Subsystem: 1274:2000
*ALSA* AC97 Codec informationSubsystem: 1274:2000
0-0/0: TriTech TR28602
PCI Subsys Vendor: 0x1274
PCI Subsys Device: 0x2000
2. *CT4810* #2PCI Subsys Vendor: 0x1274
PCI Subsys Device: 0x2000
*chip labels on the PCI card*
Creative CT5880-DCQ
SIGMATEL STAC9721T
*lspci*SIGMATEL STAC9721T
02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Ensoniq 5880B [AudioPCI]
[1274:5880] (rev 02)Subsystem: Ensoniq Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI128 [1274:2000]
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=slow >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-Latency: 32 (3000ns min, 32000ns max)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
Region 0: I/O ports at a000 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
Region 0: I/O ports at a000 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: snd_ens1371
*ALSA*Kernel driver in use: snd_ens1371
0 [AudioPCI ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xa000, irq 17
*ALSA* Advanced information - PCIEnsoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xa000, irq 17
02:01.0 0401: 1274:5880 (rev 02)
Subsystem: 1274:2000
*ALSA* AC97 Codec informationSubsystem: 1274:2000
0-0/0: SigmaTel STAC9721,23
PCI Subsys Vendor: 0x1274
PCI Subsys Device: 0x2000
3. *CT5803*PCI Subsys Vendor: 0x1274
PCI Subsys Device: 0x2000
*chip labels on the PCI card*
Creative ES1373
SIGMATEL STAC9721T
*lspci*SIGMATEL STAC9721T
02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Ensoniq ES1371 / Creative
Labs CT2518 [AudioPCI-97] [1274:1371] (rev 08)Subsystem: Ensoniq AudioPCI 64V/128 / Creative Sound Blaster CT4810
[1274:1371]Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=slow >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-Latency: 32 (3000ns min, 32000ns max)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
Region 0: I/O ports at a000 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
Region 0: I/O ports at a000 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: snd_ens1371
*ALSA*Kernel driver in use: snd_ens1371
2 [AudioPCI ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xa000, irq 17
*ALSA* Advanced information - PCIEnsoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xa000, irq 17
02:01.0 0401: 1274:1371 (rev 08)
Subsystem: 1274:1371
*ALSA* AC97 Codec informationSubsystem: 1274:1371
0-0/0: SigmaTel STAC9721,23
PCI Subsys Vendor: 0x1274
PCI Subsys Device: 0x1371
4. *CT5806*PCI Subsys Vendor: 0x1274
PCI Subsys Device: 0x1371
*chip labels on the PCI card*
Creative ES1373
C 4297A-JQ
*lspci*C 4297A-JQ
02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Ensoniq ES1371 / Creative
Labs CT2518 [AudioPCI-97] [1274:1371] (rev 08)Subsystem: Ensoniq AudioPCI 64V/128 / Creative Sound Blaster CT4810
[1274:1371]Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=slow >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-Latency: 32 (3000ns min, 32000ns max)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
Region 0: I/O ports at a000 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
Region 0: I/O ports at a000 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: snd_ens1371
*ALSA*Kernel driver in use: snd_ens1371
0 [AudioPCI ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xa000, irq 17
*ALSA* Advanced information - PCIEnsoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xa000, irq 17
02:01.0 0401: 1274:1371 (rev 08)
Subsystem: 1274:1371
*ALSA* AC97 Codec informationSubsystem: 1274:1371
0-0/0: Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev 3
PCI Subsys Vendor: 0x1274
PCI Subsys Device: 0x1371
------------------------------------------------------------------------------PCI Subsys Vendor: 0x1274
PCI Subsys Device: 0x1371